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Very very cramped engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I didn't explain ... my bad In respond to spitfirebill: I added that point since when I needed to discover a substitute 4.9 for my F150, I had to go via every one in every junkyard in South Jacket to locate one that had not been sludged up actually terribly.
Bernie: Which is a far better van, while we're going to speak concerning a couple of problems of these vans, but I I'm clearly not going to come out and say one is much better than the other. Bernie: Well, they're essentially the exact same vehicle.
Mark: So, well, allow's start with engines then. Allow's talk regarding engine and in fact simply to specify that the design years, we're going to start from 2000 and up, you know, I mean, these vans have been around for a long time.
And, you understand, for a version of a Chevy van has been around because, you understand, around that time also. We're not going to obtain back right into, into the earlier things. Since 2000, I imply, Ford's, you can obtain these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are far more popular and I wouldn't really recommend a V6 engine.
So, you recognize, Fords, and many of them include the Triton V8. There's a lot of issues with these engines. In the earlier 2000 ignition system with impact to these engines, due to the fact that they didn't have enough threading in the trigger plug, which triggered troubles. And frequently that would happen when you could be in a 15 passenger bus increasing a hillside with a tons of people and all of a sudden boom, a trigger plug pops out and you're stranded.
So if you're buying anything from probably 08 and more recent, you're not going to have that sort of ignition system concerns. Other locations though, with the Fords that we see, intake manifolds will certainly leak, they'll establish coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold usually you have to replace the whole thing.
And there's some concerns, the Ford engine I have to state in their favour, since I'm chatting about troubles, it's a much more advanced engine. Overhead camera, so you're obtaining even more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would certainly on a Chevy, which is an easier layout with press rods.
They're simply really respectable, sturdy, solid engines. You know, being a van, certainly, you understand, doing any type of service on them is extra challenging since you've got to remove that cover and obtain right into servicing in odd means. Yet things like trigger plugs last a dreadful long period of time, so they do not require to be replaced very often.
Mark: Can you get these vans with diesel engines? The Fords have actually had diesels in them for a lengthy time, like method back before the 2000 model year.
You recognize, that's still offered. If you're a say, I do not understand, I'm simply going to claim a plumber and you've got like a whole lot of heavyweight inside your van and you're lugging a trailer behind it, that would certainly be an actually good use of having a diesel powered van.
In all fairness, it appears like the diesels are, they appear to have less issues in vans than they do in the vehicles. Possibly because they aren't worked so hard, however when things happen, they're truly pricey to fix. We have actually obtained a great deal of videos and info concerning diesels, particularly the Fords.
You really need to assume two times about getting a diesel in a van. And I will certainly say, Chevy is rather a lot restricted to V8 engines, however Ford has a V 10 engine as well, which is a monstrous gas consuming engine.
If you're, and once again, we're just chatting concerning kind of a directly, regular cargo van here. Look at your objective, your usage, exactly how much weight you're transporting and that'll assist you make the choice.
Something that we have not talked regarding right here is what kind of van. These vans are, and it depends on what design, they're offered ever from half lot to one bunch framework and actually some of the cutaway vans are really also a lot more durable, like, you recognize, 450s and 550s for claim the Fords.
Typically the drive trains, you understand, I discover them to be quite a lot equal. Mark: So allow's discuss steering and suspension. How do they compare? Bernie: You know, I'm going to offer the side to Ford on this one. And the reason for Ford is that it's a little less complex.
There's much less guiding link entailed in a Chevy. Do Chevy's, but it seems, and the Chevy's possibly last a little longer than the Fords, yet the, you recognize, the steering link is much less challenging, so there's less components and much less products to put on out.
The trip in a Ford is probably a little bit much more vehicle like however I do not recognize if you 'd really ever before truly discovered a distinction between the two. It appears like their components are a little harder on the Ford than the Chevy.
Somehow, they seem to last for one brake work. And after that a great deal of times we take the brakes off and say, Oh, the dirt boots torn, and so the caliper needs to be changed. So I think on a Ford and you can anticipate to spend a little bit even more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm mosting likely to digress back before the 2000 version years, there were some Chevy vans that had actually poor doors. I mean, the gliding doors were crap, you know, really badly constructed. Actually, I would certainly say that if you are even taking a look at something older, it feels like Chevy and GMC vans truly and their vehicles in basic truly took a leap onward in high quality around the 2000 version year, due to the fact that there was a lot of stuff where the brakes for circumstances would not last really long whatsoever.
However if we're checking out the 2000 newer, I suggest, I 'd state they're both probably rather much matching in quality, fit and coating, you recognize, a few of the passenger vans, of course we'll have better consultations than the freight vans. I can not claim that one of them stands out to me a bit more than the other.
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